Blogroll Amnesty Day

February 3rd, 2009

The Pajama Pundit posted yesterday about Blogroll Amnesty Day, something I didn?t know existed until then. He plugged several blogs, including your?s truly. In order to pass the love around, here are all of the other Blogs that he plugged as well.

The Absurd Report
The Rude Pundit
C. Alyson Love
Brown Man Thinking Hard
Distributorcap
Dizzying Intellect
d r i f t g l a s s
Rumproast
Shots On The House
Simply Left Behind
The American Boy
The Hathos
ThePoliticalCat
TYWKIWDBI
Vast Variety
Viva Chuck Todd/Viva Rachel Maddow
Annette’s little piece of the world
Hip Young Thing
Zuky
Bipartisan Rules
Susan Katz Keating
Science Text
The Communist Dance Party
Deadenders
The Median Sib
Oh Gosh

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Fanaticism vs. Fact

Why does it seem like fanaticism distorts a persons perception of reality?

Friday, The Pajama Pundit made a post on his blog that was mainly pointing out a post written by TheAmericanBoy. At some point in the day, members of the Team Sarah site, began inundating PJ?s post with comments, many of them fairly unfriendly.

The first mistake that many of the commenters made was not realizing that PJ had merely quoted a post from another blog. They attacked the post as if the posted words were PJ?s and not TheAmericanBoy. Several of the posts look like they are copied and pasted from a list of talking points.

I jumped into the fray to when I noticed that there were holes in the talking points. I state my disagreement with Palin on her stance towards aerial hunting, abortion, and gay rights. I certainly expected them to come back at me, and I half expect them to come after me here on this post as well, so I didn?t do this blindly.

They try to claim that I would be willing to kill unborn babies. Which isn?t anywhere near the truth. I am pro-choice but mainly on the grounds that I don?t feel that I am anywhere near qualified to make the choice for other people about whether or not they get an abortion.

They claim that my understanding of wildlife conservation must be off because I?m against the idea of hunting wolves by aircraft, and that apparently the wolf population in Iowa is so great that our herd is almost gone. Even though the deer population is so great in Iowa that in 2005 a bill was passed through the state legislature to allow special hunting permits to farmers to thin out local herds. In 2005 it was estimated that there were nearly 600,000 deer in Iowa.

Finally among what appears to be many people commenting under Anonymous, one of them provides a civil discussion. Finally a sane voice among the chaos. I have no problem with people who have differing opinions as long as they can argue them with facts and civility.

At that point I headed off to get supper and work on fighting the flu that I developed Thursday night. When I checked the site the next day I could see that several of the other regular visitors to the Pajama Pundit had jumped in. The discussion had apparently only continued and gotten worse. Many of the commenters from Team Sarah had not yet realized that the original post wasn?t PJ?s words. He did his best to set the record straight on that.

Up till this point the only person from Team Sarah to have made a valid and civil argument was the one Anonymous I had conversed with about abortion and gay rights. It looks like they were running out of arguments when another Anonymous brings up the debunked idea that Obama is a Muslim and a terrorist.

Why is it that many Americans just assume that all Muslims are bad? I try to point out that all Muslims are not evil or terrorists.

They come back with this?

Vast, Not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims.
Mohammad Ali became a Muslim to avoid the draft – duh.
MalcolmX converted to Islam for his own agenda – some say BO is his secret son. http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn227/Polarik/obama_x-1.gif

I reply pointing out that

Timothy McVeigh was not a Muslim.
Lee Harvey Oswald was not a Muslim.
The Members of the Irish Republican Army were not Muslim.
Even The Weather Underground, the group associated with Bill Ayers was not Muslim. They drew their inspiration from the Black Panthers. They were a Marxist type group.
No, not all terrorists are Muslim.

They come back with?

Listen up Vast, stop going off on a tangent.
I never said Ayers was a Muslim. I said BO HUSSEIN is a friggin Muslim!!!
Get it? LISTEN his own words! Links already given.

At this point the logic in their argument is non-existent. They have agreed that all Muslims are not terrorists, even though for some reason the idea that having a President that is a Muslim would be the ultimate destruction of America. And no Obama is not a Muslim. But they say that all Terrorists are Muslim. When I point out several examples of non-Muslim terrorists they try to re-qualify their remark.

Vast, you need to sharpen your reading and comprehension skills – otherwise you are simply wasting my time.
READ with your eyes WIDE open. I said ‘not ALL Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims’ in the world today.
Bill Ayers ( buddy of BO Hussein) is a DOMESTIC terrorist.
He must have learnt the tricks of the trade from BO Hussein. But unlike Muslim terrorists, Ayers is not blowing up 3000 innocent people today.

The words? ?In the world today? don?t show up in their previous post and are not even implied. Even if it was they are still incorrect in their logic because of groups like FARC.

And the comment about Bill Ayers having learned his terrorist ways from Obama, who would have been about 6 years old at the time of the Weather Underground’s domestic terrorist campaign is beyond laughable.

This is why fanaticism in any form is so dangerous and counter productive. I applaud Team Sarah?s efforts in working toward getting their candidate of choice to run in the 2012 Presidential election. But if your going to present arguments that aren?t based on any sort of fact then all you have left is the fanaticism.

  • http://www.thepajamapundit.com/ The Pajama Pundit

    Well said my friend. Well said.

  • http://annette-justmylittlepieceoftheworld.blogspot.com/ Annette, Missouri

    There is no reasoning with that bunch. They are like rabid dogs.. and I am not trying to be hateful or anything just being honest. They really are. They have key words set up to notify them when someone posts something about her, and then they attack. And when they attack they just go crazy.
    I posted that one time that most of the things they say about her are 99.95% untrue and that is a fact. They make up the facts as they go along. The guy who said he had followed her for years and was posting all that stuff…almost everything he had posted was wrong.
    But, I was not going to take the time and go to the trouble to tear down his talking points one by one. I knew if I did it would only make it worse.
    Their existence is to do just exactly what you saw there. Build her up and tear down Pres. Obama. In anyway they can. They lie about both of them.
    Lesson learned the hard way for PJ I hope…best thing is not to ever post about her…lol I sure don’t because I don’t want their kind around.

  • http://www.phuckpolitics.com phuckpolitics

    You are a better person than I am.

    I would have told those jackoffs to shut the fuck up, linked to every Sarah Palin interview and say, “Look at her. Look at that stupid women. Because of her, women will never be able to run for office again.”

    But like I said, that’s just me.

  • http://annette-justmylittlepieceoftheworld.blogspot.com/ Annette, Missouri

    But as I said up above, it does no good to talk to those people. The more you feed them, the more you talk to them. It just gets worse. If you saw that idiot Ziegler on TeeVee yesterday, he is a classic example, NOTHING that happened was Sarah’s fault, it was all the fault of the media, Pres. Obama, Katie Couric, or whoever.. but none of it was her fault. She is blameless.

    She is not brainless and can’t answer questions, she is just confused because she was hammered with 5 questions about abortion so she couldn’t think of what newspapers she read. That mean old Katie Couric…lol

    It was the fault of the campaign handlers, they set up those hard interviews. They should have made sure they had the questions before so she could have studied them and gotten the answers ready and then she would have been fine.

    See, I know all the arguments these idiots from Team Sarah use.. I have seen them before.. and this is how they think.. If you haven’t seen the snippets of Ziegler you should watch it.. you will laugh at how stupid he is and how clueless.. how he tells everyone they are stupid because we don’t know how brilliant Sarah really is. Yep, that’s what he says.

  • http://www.theamericanboy.net Mikey

    They can all come over to my site and I’ll take ‘em on! :-)

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