Late in the evening of December 6th, in the Exarcheia district of central Athens, 15 year old Alexandros Grigoropoulos was out with friends. Shortly after 9pm the group became part of a confrontation with members of the Greek Police. Alexandros was shot and killed.
In the days following the killing Alexandros became a symbol of a growing frustration among Greek youth over the country’s growing economic problems, rising unemployment, and a general perception of an inefficient and corrupt Greek government.
Riots in Athens over the death quickly spread like through out the country and then through out the whole of Europe.
The speed at which the riots spread has in part been attributed to organizers using text messaging and the internet as a means of spreading their message and setting up meeting locations. In an article to the Associated Press, Paul Have wrote…
At least some of the protests were organized over the Internet, showing how quickly the message of discontent can be spread, particularly among tech-savvy youth. One Web site Greek protesters used to update each other on the locations of clashes asserted there have been sympathy protests in nearly 20 countries.
This isn’t the first time we have seen the internet become a tool of the disenfranchised as a means of organizing protests.
When California passed Proposition 8 on November 4th, a wave of Anti-Prop 8 web sites such as Join the Impact, appeared on the web as a means of directing information to protesters and to organize events such as the Nationwide protest of November 15th and upcoming December 20th “Light Up The Night For Equality“.
Even in tightly controlled China, the internet has been used to organize people to effect change in government policies and stop construction of a chemical plant.
The internet is still basically in its infancy and the genie is out of the bottle. It’s difficult to imagine just how the civil rights movement of the 1960′s would have progressed had the internet been available. Imagine watching Martin Luther King’s “I have a dream” speech as a live web cast or if Rosa Parks could have texted all her friends to join her in sitting at the front of buses all over the country on the same day.
Often, as individuals, we feel somewhat powerless against those with power, whether it be government, or the vocal majority. We sit in our homes feeling sorry for ourselves and saying “I can’t do anything about my situation so I’ll just make the best of it.” What we don’t realize is that we are rarely if ever truly alone.
Cross posted at The Pajama Pundit
Fanaticism vs. Fact
Why does it seem like fanaticism distorts a persons perception of reality?
Friday, The Pajama Pundit made a post on his blog that was mainly pointing out a post written by TheAmericanBoy. At some point in the day, members of the Team Sarah site, began inundating PJ?s post with comments, many of them fairly unfriendly.
The first mistake that many of the commenters made was not realizing that PJ had merely quoted a post from another blog. They attacked the post as if the posted words were PJ?s and not TheAmericanBoy. Several of the posts look like they are copied and pasted from a list of talking points.
I jumped into the fray to when I noticed that there were holes in the talking points. I state my disagreement with Palin on her stance towards aerial hunting, abortion, and gay rights. I certainly expected them to come back at me, and I half expect them to come after me here on this post as well, so I didn?t do this blindly.
They try to claim that I would be willing to kill unborn babies. Which isn?t anywhere near the truth. I am pro-choice but mainly on the grounds that I don?t feel that I am anywhere near qualified to make the choice for other people about whether or not they get an abortion.
They claim that my understanding of wildlife conservation must be off because I?m against the idea of hunting wolves by aircraft, and that apparently the wolf population in Iowa is so great that our herd is almost gone. Even though the deer population is so great in Iowa that in 2005 a bill was passed through the state legislature to allow special hunting permits to farmers to thin out local herds. In 2005 it was estimated that there were nearly 600,000 deer in Iowa.
Finally among what appears to be many people commenting under Anonymous, one of them provides a civil discussion. Finally a sane voice among the chaos. I have no problem with people who have differing opinions as long as they can argue them with facts and civility.
At that point I headed off to get supper and work on fighting the flu that I developed Thursday night. When I checked the site the next day I could see that several of the other regular visitors to the Pajama Pundit had jumped in. The discussion had apparently only continued and gotten worse. Many of the commenters from Team Sarah had not yet realized that the original post wasn?t PJ?s words. He did his best to set the record straight on that.
Up till this point the only person from Team Sarah to have made a valid and civil argument was the one Anonymous I had conversed with about abortion and gay rights. It looks like they were running out of arguments when another Anonymous brings up the debunked idea that Obama is a Muslim and a terrorist.
Why is it that many Americans just assume that all Muslims are bad? I try to point out that all Muslims are not evil or terrorists.
They come back with this?
Vast, Not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims.
Mohammad Ali became a Muslim to avoid the draft – duh.
MalcolmX converted to Islam for his own agenda – some say BO is his secret son. http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn227/Polarik/obama_x-1.gif
I reply pointing out that
Timothy McVeigh was not a Muslim.
Lee Harvey Oswald was not a Muslim.
The Members of the Irish Republican Army were not Muslim.
Even The Weather Underground, the group associated with Bill Ayers was not Muslim. They drew their inspiration from the Black Panthers. They were a Marxist type group.
No, not all terrorists are Muslim.
They come back with?
Listen up Vast, stop going off on a tangent.
I never said Ayers was a Muslim. I said BO HUSSEIN is a friggin Muslim!!!
Get it? LISTEN his own words! Links already given.
At this point the logic in their argument is non-existent. They have agreed that all Muslims are not terrorists, even though for some reason the idea that having a President that is a Muslim would be the ultimate destruction of America. And no Obama is not a Muslim. But they say that all Terrorists are Muslim. When I point out several examples of non-Muslim terrorists they try to re-qualify their remark.
Vast, you need to sharpen your reading and comprehension skills – otherwise you are simply wasting my time.
READ with your eyes WIDE open. I said ‘not ALL Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims’ in the world today.
Bill Ayers ( buddy of BO Hussein) is a DOMESTIC terrorist.
He must have learnt the tricks of the trade from BO Hussein. But unlike Muslim terrorists, Ayers is not blowing up 3000 innocent people today.
The words? ?In the world today? don?t show up in their previous post and are not even implied. Even if it was they are still incorrect in their logic because of groups like FARC.
And the comment about Bill Ayers having learned his terrorist ways from Obama, who would have been about 6 years old at the time of the Weather Underground’s domestic terrorist campaign is beyond laughable.
This is why fanaticism in any form is so dangerous and counter productive. I applaud Team Sarah?s efforts in working toward getting their candidate of choice to run in the 2012 Presidential election. But if your going to present arguments that aren?t based on any sort of fact then all you have left is the fanaticism.
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http://www.theamericanboy.net Mikey
